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I heard that the World Cup was going to be somehow broadcast in 3D, and apparently it was pretty cool. But the tech still has its issues...

http://www.theage.com.au/digital-life/computers/blogs/gadgets-on-the-go/hands-on-3dtv-panasonic-viera-thp50vt20a/20100729-10xeq.html

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Re: 3D TVs -- review/comparison of Panasonic vs. Sony (29Jul2010)
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2010, 11:46:29 PM »
Same basic LCD FLICKER tech my sega master system had, just now instead of using an interlace trick at standard refresh rate they double the refresh rate and can do progressive scan on the set.
The glass are still powered and synced to the TV to blank out your vision in alternating eyes.

I am waiting for better tech that doesn't require me to where glasses or at least not have to have $300 /pair ones for everyone to enjoy the effect.


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Re: 3D TVs -- review/comparison of Panasonic vs. Sony (29Jul2010)
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2010, 04:41:27 AM »
Sounds like some of the competitiveness is kicking in, package deals are often offered, and the glasses are not all $300 each, some are apparently as low as $100 US (since the article linked above mentioned the $200 pricepoint as being "double" some competitors).

The local Radio Shack (oops, I mean The Source) had a Sharp 3D package, included a 3D player as well as 2 sets of glasses, for some reduced price, can't remember the details but it was nice to hear they aren't totally taking advantage of early adopters, the fact that packages are being offered already, to reduce the overall cost of things you would buy anyway to get the most out of the tech, that's a good thing to see.
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Re: 3D TVs -- review/comparison of Panasonic vs. Sony (29Jul2010)
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2010, 01:46:41 PM »
I've tried these out in various stores now and I'm with Lazy.  I don't want to have to wear glasses to watch TV, Movie, or Play a Video Game.  Holographics is probably the next thing to get the 3D going right.
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Re: 3D TVs -- review/comparison of Panasonic vs. Sony (29Jul2010)
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2010, 12:55:53 AM »
There are suppose to be TV's on the horizon using the same tech as Nintendo's upcoming 3DS, which gives 3d without any glasses at all. How it will work on bigger screens though is still in question, last I heard.
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Re: 3D TVs -- review/comparison of Panasonic vs. Sony (29Jul2010)
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2010, 03:04:02 PM »
There are suppose to be TV's on the horizon using the same tech as Nintendo's upcoming 3DS, which gives 3d without any glasses at all. How it will work on bigger screens though is still in question, last I heard.

There are two glasses less techs... The first is one where the TV has a special layer that fragments the image, and can only be viewed at distinct angles from the set.. IE dead on and maybe exactly 30 degrees.. Another more scarey tech uses a projector and an eye tracking system that beams the image into your eyes.. It is limited to x amount of people it can trach
Sounds like some of the competitiveness is kicking in, package deals are often offered, and the glasses are not all $300 each, some are apparently as low as $100 US (since the article linked above mentioned the $200 pricepoint as being "double" some competitors).

The local Radio Shack (oops, I mean The Source) had a Sharp 3D package, included a 3D player as well as 2 sets of glasses, for some reduced price, can't remember the details but it was nice to hear they aren't totally taking advantage of early adopters, the fact that packages are being offered already, to reduce the overall cost of things you would buy anyway to get the most out of the tech, that's a good thing to see.


Would you trust small kids with $100 to $300 plastic glasses? They really are not all that durable that is for sure.


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Re: 3D TVs -- review/comparison of Panasonic vs. Sony (29Jul2010)
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2010, 05:44:33 PM »
Would you trust small kids with $100 to $300 plastic glasses? They really are not all that durable that is for sure.

Not only that, but adding 3D to a show that has no discernible plot does nothing to the show.  3D won't make a bad show better.  So why bother spending hundreds or thousands of dollars on tech that won't make an appreciable difference in your entertainment value?
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Re: 3D TVs -- review/comparison of Panasonic vs. Sony (29Jul2010)
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2010, 11:04:00 AM »
This whole 3D fad is completely on the manufacturers side, looking for a new angle (pardon the pun). I don't think I've ever heard anyone pining for a 3D television. Heck most 3D movies are quite disappointing.

Personally, one pair of glasses is enough for me.
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Re: 3D TVs -- review/comparison of Panasonic vs. Sony (29Jul2010)
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2010, 07:50:51 AM »
Little blurb about Toshiba's new glasses-free 3D TV's rumored to be hitting the Japaneses market soon.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/rumor_toshiba_launch_glasses-free_3d_tvs_2010
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Re: 3D TVs -- review/comparison of Panasonic vs. Sony (29Jul2010)
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2010, 03:22:29 AM »
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/rumor_toshiba_launch_glasses-free_3d_tvs_2010

edit: d'oh! I just found this link, didn't see your post has the same URL, lol -- well, there's comments there, maybe those are new since the above post.
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Re: 3D TVs -- review/comparison of Panasonic vs. Sony (29Jul2010)
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2010, 07:32:26 AM »
You have to be sitting head on for that apparently to work, I don't think it will catch on.

Maybe they can add a device that shocks your butt or makes a smell instead...
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Re: 3D TVs -- review/comparison of Panasonic vs. Sony (29Jul2010)
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2010, 10:07:44 AM »
Maybe they can add a device that shocks your butt or makes a smell instead...

If you have a loud enough surround system with a big enough subwoofer, you can already experience the Low Frequency Effects to get a "shock" for your butt.  Some shows I watch, the couch vibrates in the Everyone-Running-From-The-Explosion parts.
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Re: 3D TVs -- review/comparison of Panasonic vs. Sony (29Jul2010)
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2010, 10:09:22 AM »
Maybe they can add a device that shocks your butt or makes a smell instead...

If you have a loud enough surround system with a big enough subwoofer, you can already experience the Low Frequency Effects to get a "shock" for your butt.  Some shows I watch, the couch vibrates in the Everyone-Running-From-The-Explosion parts.

I was gonna ask how you might know that but you answered it right away. What the hell kind of TV are you watching???
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Re: 3D TVs -- review/comparison of Panasonic vs. Sony (29Jul2010)
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2010, 01:13:33 PM »
Now Sony is in on the race.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/sony_joins_race_deliver_glasses-free_3d_tvs

Sony tries everything once, usually with a custom battery or something haha.

What I want to know is who is driving this whole shift to 3D, is it the film industry or the television industry?

Back in the 50s the reason things like Cinemascope, 3D, seat buzzers, etc came into being was to compete with television which was decimating the film industry. I kinda see some parallels, except this time it's TV and film VS teh interwebs.

Crazy!
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