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How the Internet broke my brain
« on: January 11, 2012, 02:35:56 PM »
The Neuroscience of Internet Addiction

"...but we lose the ability to pay deep attention..." I didn't catch the rest of what he said.




moar: http://www.youtube.com/user/bigthink (it's like under-five-minutes TED talks! over one THOUSAND of them!)
« Last Edit: January 11, 2012, 03:10:39 PM by Darren Dirt »
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Re: How the Internet broke my brain
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2012, 02:47:36 PM »
Nicholas Carr is a weapons grade troll who bashes Wikipedia over the quality of editing while working for Encyclopędia Britannica as an Editorial advisor.

A Harvard plutocrat looking to sell books.
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Re: How the Internet broke my brain
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2012, 02:56:39 PM »
Okay well skip that particular media bite. There's plenty other authors in their YT channel and website to satiate that info-thirst. And a good chunk of it is "well now, I'll have to think deeper about that" stuff.
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- George Carlin (http://bit.ly/aUchTX)

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Re: How the Internet broke my brain
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2012, 02:58:53 PM »
Like, give me an example?

Ideally one that doesn't presuppose theory as fact (i.e. "internet addiction") :D
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Re: How the Internet broke my brain
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2012, 03:01:14 PM »
http://bigthink.com/michiokaku

one of hundreds (not saying all are smart, correct, or agreeable) (just like TEDtalk speakers, tbh)



not to mention http://bigthink.com/richarddawkins, and intelligent "pop culture icons" turned status-quo challengers like http://bigthink.com/pennjillette and http://bigthink.com/stephenfry


« Last Edit: January 11, 2012, 03:04:21 PM by Darren Dirt »
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"The secret to happiness is finding something you love and doing it well, and then being recognized for."
- George Carlin (http://bit.ly/aUchTX)

"Be so good they can't ignore you."
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Re: How the Internet broke my brain
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2012, 03:03:28 PM »
See now that's a better way to kick off interest...

Does make me wonder how you found that first one though. Do you feel like you're addicted to the internet?
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Re: How the Internet broke my brain
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2012, 03:06:03 PM »
I had watched a handful of science-related videos on BT's YT channel. Can't remember how I got there originally, but most likely via the excellent long interview Neil deGrasse Tyson did with Stephen Colbert, from there more Tyson clips eventually got me to BigThink, I'm pretty sure.

The link in the OP piqued my interest enough to watch ("neurons change when we do/think something new/differently" idea) and I don't believe in "addiction" per se for internetz, but I can't deny it's been a real focus-killer in my life, personally. But I shared for discussion, not blind acceptance, obv.



Anyways, back to work I go... Must Resist Internet Timesinks ;)
« Last Edit: January 11, 2012, 03:09:53 PM by Darren Dirt »
DEEP: "Don't judge the world from it's people. Don't judge my hands from my gloves." -GS http://goo.gl/RaEEG http://goo.gl/j5IMn


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Re: How the Internet broke my brain
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2012, 03:09:20 PM »
Ok, I was just curious, the original link was broken and leads to this:
http://the%20neuroscience%20of%20internet%20addiction/

Which piqued my interest a bit as I've seen Nicholas Carr's rantings before and he's no authority on neuroscience (or science at all really) :)
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Re: How the Internet broke my brain
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2012, 03:11:22 PM »
link fixed. got my URL mixed with my LABEL (brain musta already moved on to the next 2 or 3 tasks in my focus ;) )
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Re: How the Internet broke my brain
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2012, 03:14:50 PM »
Meh, @%&# happens, don't sweat it
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Re: How the Internet broke my brain
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2012, 03:18:57 PM »
Just realized, virtually all of the "short" clips are just excerpts from the entirety of a full interview (which is typically 45+ minutes) so in a way it's perfect for intelligent/info-loving Short Attention Span Theatre audience members.


Mr. Carr's full interview is 16 minutes, seems he focuses on the sociological/behavioral impact of technology:
http://bigthink.com/nicholascarr
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Re: How the Internet broke my brain
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2012, 03:24:40 PM »
Which was what his last two books were about if I recall lol

It's a commercial for what he has to say in his books (just without the Billy Mays flair) :D
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Re: How the Internet broke my brain
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2012, 03:40:12 PM »
Still a concept of some reasonableness...
http://www.google.com/search?q=neuroplasticity+brain+changes+when+we+learn+new+things


or at the very least, theory gets you thinking about concentration/focus. On that subject, http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2006/11/11/why-do-you-turn-down-the-radio-when-youre-lost/



http://bigthink.com/larrywall Perl inventor, still very child-like wonder towards programming by the looks of it  8)

whereas http://bigthink.com/davidheinemeierhansson Ruby On Rails inventor has some ... strong opinions.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2012, 03:55:12 PM by Darren Dirt »
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Re: How the Internet broke my brain
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2012, 04:33:08 PM »
It's a widely accepted opinion for sure, however I've yet to see any convincing science applied to it.

I DO find it amusing that so much discussion around the idea of internet addiction happens on the internet... :lol:
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Re: How the Internet broke my brain
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2012, 08:52:03 PM »
See now that's a better way to kick off interest...

Does make me wonder how you found that first one though. Do you feel like you're addicted to the internet?
I don't feel I am, I know I am. Started off being additcted to email. Gotta have that fix ....
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