Fascinating: WGA writers don't need ATA agents -- *and just called their bluff*

Started by Darren Dirt, April 18, 2019, 07:24:32 PM

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Darren Dirt

"The Hollywood Fight That?s Tearing Apart Writers and Agents, Explained"
https://www.vulture.com/article/wga-hollywood-agents-packaging-explained.html

"How will writers get jobs without agents?
In his February address to Guild members, Goodman said 75 percent of respondents in a recent WGA survey said they got themselves their most recent jobs, not their agents..."



EVERYONE is impacted, but as a result there is some normie-friendly Cliff's Notes discussion about this issue (that I only today heard about!)
e.g. https://twitter.com/StephenKing/status/1117561930221281280

Here's a nice calling out of agents' bull@%&# by David Simon, you know that guy who wrote... THE WIRE https://twitter.com/AoDespair/status/1117384443491168256


"How Do Hollywood Writers Feel About Leaving Their Agents? 8 Weigh In."
https://www.vulture.com/2019/04/wga-writers-on-leaving-their-agents-8-weigh-in.html
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Thorin

Quote from: Darren Dirt on April 18, 2019, 07:24:32 PM
EVERYONE is impacted, but as a result there is some normie-friendly Cliff's Notes discussion about this issue (that I only today heard about!)
e.g. https://twitter.com/StephenKing/status/1117561930221281280

Why do you call that "normie-friendly"?  As far as I understand, the term "normie" is derogatory and meant to make the other seem lesser than the self.  Or are you calling yourself a "normie" and saying the explanations help you figure out what's going on?

As far as writers not needing agents, yeah, there's a ton of middle-men just skimming money for no real added value in the entertainment industries.
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Darren Dirt

I take the word "normie" as being useful in various situations, sorry if you have only seen/used it in a derogatory way.

To clarify, another way (and the way I intended) is to be shorthand for "those who don't have the time to research and learn all the details of something". AKA pretty much Cliff's Notes, but instead of describing the thing it describes the audience for the thing. So something for normies, or normie-friendly, is just accessible without having to spend 20 minutes reading a full detailed analysis/expanation of the issue.


Again, instead of defining every term I am using, I expect a reader to infer the meaning based on the rest of the sentence or the context of other sentences.
Quote from: Darren Dirt on April 18, 2019, 07:24:32 PM
EVERYONE is impacted, but as a result there is some normie-friendly Cliff's Notes discussion about this issue (that I only today heard about!)
e.g. https://twitter.com/StephenKing/status/1117561930221281280
^ from the replies in the Stephen King convo...
Guy Endore-Kaiser @GuyEndoreKaiser
Talent agencies are making deals where they participate in the profit of the shows that writers create. The way to ensure more profit is to keep costs down. The way to keep costs down is to pay writers less. This puts agents interests at odds with writers.
...The WGA isn't being unreasonable, and a compromise isn't the answer.  Package fees and affiliated production are a conflict of interest and they simply have to go.

Gritty Stan @jigglebologna
Thanks for the explanation!

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"Normie" is like "Sheeple"; it makes the person writing it sound dull and conceited. (I'm sorry but that's how it is)

https://www.xkcd.com/610/
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Darren Dirt

Quote from: Mr. Analog on April 18, 2019, 08:10:51 PM
"Normie" is like "Sheeple"; it makes the person writing it sound dull and conceited. (I'm sorry but that's how it is)

https://www.xkcd.com/610/

Not all of us use XKCD as our dictionary... and PS: that comic only had the word "sheep" not "normie" ;)

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Thorin

Well I asked because I could have inferred that you were saying "dumbed down for stupid people" which is how the term is generally used, or you could have been saying it shorthand for "explained for neurotypical people", which is how I've sometimes seen it used, but I wasn't sure that was really how you meant it.  The rest of the post had snark and a swear, so if I were to just infer from the rest of the sentences I would've assumed it was a talking-down phrase, but rather than just assume, I asked.  I mean, isn't that how we increase our understanding of each other's intended messages?
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Mr. Analog

I didn't mean my posts to sound so harsh TBH but re-reading it now I think I went too far. Apologies.

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