Tesla S at Dell World 2013

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How could those plants ever have been considered worth building if they cost hundreds of millions, take 10-20 years to build, then only run for maybe 30 years? And then some cost millions per year to "maintain" in dismantled state? yow.

I think newer designs are better, but not many of them have ever been built due to paranoia.
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Darren Dirt

#48
There were a handful of Tesla cars in shining brilliance at this year's Father's Day "Show & Shine" car show at the "Celebration Church" on 75th and Argyll (previously known as "Church on 99", been running more than 10 years now). Got pictures to prove it ;)

Pretty cool to look at. Obviously not inexpensive.


But how's the actual business doing? Like, is maybe Musk publicly faceplanting on purpose, because he can't use facts to respond to the increasing complaints and accusations (and short sellers)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0HE9nbqJjE
^ PS: in that video, I learned something shocking/sad -- the really cool idea Tesla electric SEMIS are not feasible, charging-power-wise O_o ... Ambitious Ideas + Poor Execution = [footnote in history for the wrong reasons]?

Or... is maybe Musk one of the short-sellers, in some weird way of building up a big profit from which to make the Tesla corp PRIVATE again? https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1026872652290379776



https://twitter.com/AVUSANY/status/1026910831534133248
"Trading is currently halted for TSLA"
( after it almost immediately shot up +8% ) ( actually +10% in less than 30 minutes(!!!) -- see https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/tsla )
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Lazybones

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That video is a completely one sided negative list.

Probably best to balance that out with something else before drawing any conclusions.

IE the truth is dirty / gray.

I love how the two book examples at the start are of Bill Gates and Steve Jobs.

Bill Gates was considered crazy for going after Software over hardware.

Steve Jobs had MANY of those crazy moments.. no one really through the first iPhone could do what it promised.

But that is the thing.. If you push the limits its hard to predict what will happen.

As for Tesla?

The SEMI is already doing runs with fully working prototypes and MAJOR companies have signed up for SHORT HAUL work.. IE things like grocery stores / retailers moving good from a warehouse to a store within a city that is HIGHLY inefficient with current SEMIs but necessary due to the volume of goods.

The Model 3 production run was always slated as the more expensive first.. Currently Long range rear, Long range dual / performance, LAST the base model.. Will the base sell for $35,000 US? Maybe

Musk should stay off twitter... that I can agree on.

I don't think all of Musks ideas will land, however I am fairly confident that they will continue to pump out MORE of those model 3s at a higher rate which should balance their books and drive up demand for their home solar / charging products.

Edit:

Check out https://electrek.co/ if you want to see mostly positive tilted Tesla news.. Note I acknowledge it is tilted / biased.I find it hard to find unbiased news on Tesla, just need to aggregate the positive and negative together.

Darren Dirt

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Quote from: Lazybones on August 07, 2018, 01:55:44 PM
That video is a completely one sided negative list.

Probably best to balance that out with something else before drawing any conclusions.

IE the truth is dirty / gray.

Agreed.

But the source of the "pro-Tesla" side is almost always going to be biased, aka Tesla and affiliates / proxies. So I thought this "con-Tesla" video was a nice quick summariy of a lot of the complaints I have heard from various sources over the last few months (or even years).

I don't care either way, I think it's exciting times re. technology, but the reality of money and physical limitations etc. can't be ignored no matter how cool tech or ideas seem to be. I want TSLA to succeed, so I hope today's teaser/bombshell by Musk is the real deal, that the company goes Private again, to stop being handicapped by all the PR and speculation and shorting BS. Then at least if it fails it's all on Musk and his exec team or whatever, no excuses. But if he succeeds it might even teach the social media outrage mob to chill a bit, and stop discouraging dissenting views and visions. :)
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Darren Dirt

#51
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1026914941004001280

https://twitter.com/Tesla/status/1026912973120462848

The madman is actually gonna do it! (Unless shareholders vote no)

https://www.tesla.com/blog/taking-tesla-private


I just hope there's no more corporation welfare in the future -- that's the real issue for a lot of people ( e.g. as summarized in the text below the cartoon here: https://grrrgraphics.com/teslas-musk-mobile/ )
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Darren Dirt

#52
Elon Musk...
                                        ...as Doc Oc from the Spider-Man universe.
  ^ words (tweets)
                                                  ^ visuals (comic panels)


https://twitter.com/DrOctoMusk
https://twitter.com/DrOctoMusk/media


Pretty sweet. Almost surreal existential accidental humor along the lines of "Garfield Minus Garfield".

( see also: https://twitter.com/existentialcoms/media )
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#53
Quote from: Darren Dirt on August 15, 2018, 05:53:18 PM
Elon Musk...
                                        ...as Doc Oc from the Spider-Man universe.
  ^ words (tweets)
                                                  ^ visuals (comic panels)


https://twitter.com/DrOctoMusk
https://twitter.com/DrOctoMusk/media


Pretty sweet. Almost surreal existential accidental humor along the lines of "Garfield Minus Garfield".

( see also: https://twitter.com/existentialcoms/media )


https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1080963075539234816

"'Neil A' (as in Armstrong) backwards is 'AlieN'. There are no coincidences."

also, "Evian, the first bottled water, is naive spelled backwards"

...this might be the thing to get "Dr. OctoMusk" back to work!
[ most recent tweet = 21Dec2018, but last COMIC was 29Oct2018 https://twitter.com/DrOctoMusk/status/1056930658436579328 ]

( https://twitter.com/DrOctoMusk/media = easily skim to the present from August when this RW post mentioned it )



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